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As promised, Trump supports Obama's EO protecting LGBT citizens
Topic Started: Jan 31 2017, 10:24 PM (2,564 Views)
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Feb 2 2017, 01:21 PM
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Feb 2 2017, 05:33 AM
It's been 12 days and there have been over twenty executive orders that have messed up tens of thousands of peoples lives...how is it too early to see what kind of President he'll be?
Well... over 20 is an exaggeration, it's only been 7 Executive Order's and 11 Memorandums which aren't technically EO's but instead delegate departments to complete required duties.

And which Executive Orders have messed up tens of thousands of people's lives? Reducing regulations? Tougher border security?
Either way, the Dakota Pipeline, the Refugee Ban (which, contrary to a right wing belief, is not like what Obama did for many reasons if one were to look) which is not only a PR disaster but even Homeland Security and well...about every organization that could handle that or help was caught off guard and not told until it was put under way, leaving the TPP, trying to destroy the Affordable Care Act, lying to the American Public on day 2 of his presidency with the alternative facts, Expediting environmental reviews and in fact telling the EPA to stop making studies.

Sorry, I went on a tangent and not all of them are executive orders or memorandums. But he's utterly terrible so far with no real upside as of yet, and that's pretty pathetic. Most people who would be bad presidents would take years to be bad, or to lie, or to admit science is bulls***. There's just really no arguing for Trump, honestly.
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Feb 2 2017, 02:37 PM
Know'm Sayin', I know that you're trying your best to be a funny troll, but you'll never be as funny as members like Dingo who actually understand good humor. I'd suggest you quit trying because you just sound stupid.
I thought it was funny.


The LBGT community should look at this as a minor victory for now, though if I were LBGT, I'd honestly be frightened of what the Republican majority will try and push in the coming months. Hopefully they don't try anything though.

also lol Pence is garbage
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Feb 2 2017, 02:05 PM
For anybody wanting to see the GOP's hypocrisy, here's just one example;

http://uk.businessinsider.com/gop-blasts-emperor-obamas-immigration-order-2014-11
I could also do the same on the Dems side. It's safe to safe that both parties of congress are pathetic, but there are decent ones on both sides as well. I am no fan of the republicans in congress. I think half of them are neocons who want nothing more than war. They claim to be conservative yet they pass a bill to increase the debt by 9.7 trillion. There are very few, actual, "conservatives" in congress. Hell, McCain essentially said he wants WW3 with Russia. He said Russia's cyber attack of the US is an act of war and we should respond in kind. I think we remember his, bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran joke in 08...

That being said, the reason Obama was attacked for his EO's had little to do with the quantity of them, but what they were used for. Although I agree with "most" of Trump's EOs, I do think he needs to slow down and start working with congress. I'm hoping once he gets done with what he promised, he will start working with the leadership to get those EOs implemented as law. I think he just wants to prove to everyone that he does what he says he says, and to do that he needs immediate action, and there's nothing that defines immediate like executive action


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For anybody wanting to see the GOP's hypocrisy, here's just one example;

http://uk.businessinsider.com/gop-blasts-emperor-obamas-immigration-order-2014-11
I could also do the same on the Dems side. It's safe to safe that both parties of congress are pathetic, but there are decent ones on both sides as well. I am no fan of the republicans in congress. I think half of them are neocons who want nothing more than war. They claim to be conservative yet they pass a bill to increase the debt by 9.7 trillion. There are very few, actual, "conservatives" in congress. Hell, McCain essentially said he wants WW3 with Russia. He said Russia's cyber attack of the US is an act of war and we should respond in kind. I think we remember his, bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran joke in 08...

That being said, the reason Obama was attacked for his EO's had little to do with the quantity of them, but what they were used for. Although I agree with "most" of Trump's EOs, I do think he needs to slow down and start working with congress. I'm hoping once he gets done with what he promised, he will start working with the leadership to get those EOs implemented as law. I think he just wants to prove to everyone that he does what he says he says, and to do that he needs immediate action, and there's nothing that defines immediate like executive action
Is he that concerned about proving that he can do something immediately that he's willing to sign Executive Actions without informing people and agencies who're affected by them beforehand? Everyone saw how the immigration EO fiasco worked out, the agencies had no idea what the Order meant and what they had to do, so it ended up doing more damage than it had to as soon as it was implemented.
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Feb 2 2017, 11:13 PM
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Feb 2 2017, 10:58 PM
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Feb 2 2017, 02:05 PM
For anybody wanting to see the GOP's hypocrisy, here's just one example;

http://uk.businessinsider.com/gop-blasts-emperor-obamas-immigration-order-2014-11
I could also do the same on the Dems side. It's safe to safe that both parties of congress are pathetic, but there are decent ones on both sides as well. I am no fan of the republicans in congress. I think half of them are neocons who want nothing more than war. They claim to be conservative yet they pass a bill to increase the debt by 9.7 trillion. There are very few, actual, "conservatives" in congress. Hell, McCain essentially said he wants WW3 with Russia. He said Russia's cyber attack of the US is an act of war and we should respond in kind. I think we remember his, bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran joke in 08...

That being said, the reason Obama was attacked for his EO's had little to do with the quantity of them, but what they were used for. Although I agree with "most" of Trump's EOs, I do think he needs to slow down and start working with congress. I'm hoping once he gets done with what he promised, he will start working with the leadership to get those EOs implemented as law. I think he just wants to prove to everyone that he does what he says he says, and to do that he needs immediate action, and there's nothing that defines immediate like executive action
Is he that concerned about proving that he can do something immediately that he's willing to sign Executive Actions without informing people and agencies who're affected by them beforehand? Everyone saw how the immigration EO fiasco worked out, the agencies had no idea what the Order meant and what they had to do, so it ended up doing more damage than it had to as soon as it was implemented.
It was falsely reported that DHS didn't know, but they did. The TSA didn't know, though; from my research, anyway. I don't have enough info to argue why Trump signed it the way he did without telling certain people so I won't try. Except to say that it's common knowledge that newer administrations make mistakes and I think it's safe to say in the future you won't see mistakes like that.

But that doesn't negate my earlier post that Trump wants to appear like he's doing what he promised faster than any other President has done. He has stated it a few times already in recent interviews, and his narcissistic behavior always makes him seek approval when he does something he promised to do.

While we're on the subject, he has gotten a lot done in his first two weeks. A hell of a lot done if we're being honest. Three days after Obama was inaugurated he met with Republican leadership who suggested some tax policy changes to for Obama's stimulus package. Obama's response was, "I won." That article in the link is interesting and I suggest you read it. But why do I bring it up? Because people look toward Obama as a humble civil servant who had no attributes similar to Trump, yet Obama has acted narcissistic on numerous occasions after he became President. People look at the evil Republicans as solely responsible for the hyper-partisanship that was created after Obama was elected, but they leave out that Obama wasn't interested in bipartisanship either. USA said it best, "it appears his elections in 08 and 12 gave him validation that his opinion was the only one that mattered," despite the fact there were over 100 other elected officials to congress, give or take..

So yes, I don't know why Trump didn't inform certain people about the order and I don't know if it was a mistake that happened which all new administrations experience at some point. Just like when you start a new job. But Trump is getting done what he promised to do, and there was a big argument that Trump will never do what he promises and people are gullible for believing him. Well, it appears they may have been wrong


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Feb 2 2017, 04:32 PM
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Stop with the trolling and baiting.I and the rest of the people here are getting sick of it and I've already warned you twice about it. If you want to try to act like Trumpis doing something good, fine...do so in a respectable manner. It is Obama, not Osama. Get your act together right now.
Trolling? That is your assumption, but I am simply stating my unpopular opinion. Which obviously people don't like.

And I am not baiting, I just spoke my mind and OFG instead of replying to me in a civil manner she insulted me. So how am I in the wrong in that situation? Hell I even followed forum policy and reported her instead of insulting her like she did me. I wanna make it clear that having a different opinion is NOT baiting.

And me calling Obama by a different name is not derogatory since I did not use foul language, because all I did was just that call him by a different name I could have called him JoeBlow it would be no different. And it is entirely subjective. I ask you this, are all children named Mohammad bad people? Or kids named Joseph(Stalin)?

BTW you responding to me here publicly instead of PM is extremely unprofessional of you considering you are a MOD. This could have very easily been settled thru PM. So why did you do it? So that you can have an excuse to not punish those who blatantly insulted me? I call kangaroo court on the grounds of favoritism.
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